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By: aaron klinefelter » Blog Archive » Campus Ministry Impact

aaron klinefelter » Blog Archive » Campus Ministry Impact — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:27:15 +0000

[...] there’s work to be done on how we understand our role on each of these campuses. I’ve written before about conceiving of success ecologically in a ministry/mission environment and I think there’s more to delve into there. Likewise, [...]

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By: Defining Success by Missional Mapping « Heart of Campus Ministry

Defining Success by Missional Mapping « Heart of Campus Ministry — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:09:39 +0000

[...] I’ve much appreciated the perspective of Jim Musser about a retrospective approach to defining success, and having initially launched in Boston under Impact, Dean Trune’s reminder about the pursuit of connectedness is always foundational. I also appreciated conversations raised about the need for more exigent feedback for new college ministers, and others who have been exploring this topic in the past month, like Ian Clark at NewChapter, as well as Ben Hines (who will be a guest blogger here at HOCM next week on this topic), and Aaron Klinefelter. [...]

By: weekly review, bonus week edition « Exploring College Ministry blog (daily notes about our field)

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:07:40 +0000

[...] out Heart of Campus Ministry’s original post on the topic by Dean Thune. Aaron Klinefelter chimed in with an “ecological” definition of college ministry success. I posted on why aiming for numbers [...]

By: Defining the “Win” in Campus Ministry at Chris Bean

Defining the “Win” in Campus Ministry at Chris Bean — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:10:44 +0000

[...] NKU. Aaron Klinefelter is director of the Wesley Foundation and you can track with his discussion here. (Isn’t this a great shot of him with his son?!) As Aaron and I discussed the topic of [...]

By: weekly review, upstate NY edition « Exploring College Ministry blog (daily notes about our field)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:26:15 +0000

[...] Dean Thune. (I’ll be posting in that series in a few weeks!) Aaron Klinefelter wrote a great (and interesting) post on an “ecological” understanding of college ministry success. I posted on why aiming [...]

By: ~peter

~peter — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:08:15 +0000

When I think “success” in my context (very large, downtown UM church, with stuents scattered across the state and nation), I think in growth of love for God and neighbor. And quality before quantity. I really connect with the ecological analogy because I definitely think that’s true–campus ministry doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

Thanks for the post. Great stuff to chew on.

By: Ian Clark

Ian Clark — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:46:06 +0000

I’ve been wrestling with a similar question, ‘how do you assess/ evaluate the strength of a campus ministry.’
I would agree with you, size isn’t the primary indicator or metric. I would be very interested to explore the four areas you mentioned:
* Developing Principled Christian Leaders
* Congregational Development
* Ministry with the Poor
* Improving Health Globally
While I was typing my comment, I got a text from a UMC campus minister friend. I figured this was an opportunity to ask his thoughts. He replied:
‘I think it’s a combo of things. Number of active members (taking context into account), quality of programming, number of leaders trained, retention in the church following graduation, quality of disciple formation…’
This is a topic on a lot of people’s minds. I was told the Hearts of Campus Ministry Blog (http://naccm.wordpress.com/) will be exploring this topic soon.
Thanks for the post.

By: mhick255

mhick255 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:06:33 +0000

Thanks, Aaron! I haven’t had a chance to meet Benson yet (the post about him was written by our other blogger), so it would be great if he comes back through.

Here’s the link for CT’s interview with Smith, but I don’t think the quote I mentioned is in there – it was part of a live webinar that I don’t think they recorded:
http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/2009/october/21.34.html

Just finished Smith’s Souls in Transition – lots of interesting stuff to chew on for campus ministers. For example: most emerging adults think the purpose of religion is to teach you how to be a good person; most emerging adults think they already ARE good persons; so they think there’s no point to being involved with religion – at least, not until they’re older and have kids. The idea that religious faith might, say, lead a person to reorient the entire direction of his life simply never crosses their minds.

By: ak

ak — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:16:21 +0000

Mike, I didn’t see that, but will definitely check it out! I’ll google, but do you have a link? Speaking of links – you are tearing up The Emerging Scholars Blog! Great posts and well linked.

To your point about small campus ministries attracting the “thoughtful, introverted students” – we are definitely there. Which is wonderful and weird. Wonderful because these students are so much more engaged in the things of the Spirit. Weird because I’m an extrovert.

I’d love to get Benson back in NKY/Cincy, be good to have a pow-wow with him.